Kimber 1911 Ultra vs Sig Sauer P320 XCompact. ... Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry Ii (Two-Tone) 9Mm 3200332 ... Sig Sauer P320 Xcompact Rxp With Romeo1 Pro... grabagun.com 979.99 View Deal Sig Sauer P320 Xcompact 9Mm 3.6In 10Rd Semi-Automatic... 2 more deals from gritrsports.com ...Kimber Pro carry vs Kimber Ultra Carry. Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by 4cyltacoma, Aug 21, 2009. Post Reply. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. Sep 16, 2009 at 2:55 PM #21 #21. ... I have the Ultra carry 3" barrel and have carried it all day many times and back and forth across country on a motorcycle. Very concealable and comfortable.BRIDGEWAY ULTRA SMALL COMPANY MARKET FUND- Performance charts including intraday, historical charts and prices and keydata. Indices Commodities Currencies StocksPosts: 12,451. Get the compact (4") Kimber rather than an ultra (3"), IMO. The 4" are more reliable, require less maintenance, give more sight radius, more bullet velocity, and are still 95% as easy to conceal. Having said that, I had an Ultra Carry for awhile, and it worked perfectly reliably.Kimber Pro Carry II Stainless 1911 Review. UPDATE 11/2019: This original article was written in 2008. Today, Kimber continues to produce several of their 1911s in the "Pro" line. The Kimber Pro Carry II 1911 .45 ACP, with matte stainless finish is a gun that I don't own, but have been able to observe in action for about 3 and a half years.Kimber 1911 Pro vs Springfield 1911 Ronin EMP 4" ... Kimber 1911 Pro Carry Ii (Two-Tone) 9Mm 3200333 eurooptic.com 819.99 View Deal Kimber 1911 Stainless Pro Carry Ii .45 Acp... eurooptic.com ... 1911 Ultra vs. Springfield 1911 Ronin EMP 4" ...Jun 29, 2012 ... This is an overview of my Kimber Ultra Carry II. I also am running my 200 sub contest. Contest Rules: 1) Must be a sub to my channel as of ...3200061CA. MSRP: $1,120.00. Find Dealers. Fine 1911 pistols and rifles for both the hunter and shooter. Kimber offers law enforcement tactical pistols and rifles, less-lethal self-defense products, light weight rifles and mountain rifles.I have an Ultra Carry, and the Compact CDP. Difference in size being the lenggth of the barrell. They both have a shorter grip than a standard 45, which makes them easier to conceal. Barrel length is not really a concern if you're talking about concealability. Grip length is. accuracy is as good as you'll find on any gun.Specifications: Kimber Pro Carry II Caliber: .45 ACP Height (90 degrees to barrel): 5.25″ Barrel Length: 4″ Overall Length: 7.7″ Weight: 28 oz (empty magazine) Finish: Satin Silver Capacity: 7 Recoil Spring: 20 lbs Guide Rod: Full-length MSRP: $1016 . Ratings (out of five stars): Style: * * * * * I really appreciate the form factor of a ...Aug 28, 2015 ... The only reason I would trade is for the money difference . Sell the Kimber and get another Glock . But with the holster wear on the Kimber and ...Heckler And Koch Vp9L For Sale 9Mm 81000591... grabagun.com. 744.99. View Deal. Compare the dimensions and specs of Kimber 1911 Ultra and Smith & Wesson M&P 9 Shield Plus.Ryan shoots the Springfield XDS vs ther Kimber Ultra Carry IICompare the dimensions and specs of Kimber 1911 Pro and Springfield 1911 Ronin EMP 4" ... Kimber 1911 Pro Carry Ii (Two-Tone) 9Mm 3200333 ... 1911 Ultra vs ...Here's one I can speak from experience on. I own both. The Ultra Carry is a stainless model with alloy frame and of course the Glock I reference is the 36. Kimber weighs 25.0 oz. and 8 rounds capacity. Glock 36 weighs 20.0 oz. and 7 rounds capacity. Side by side they both carry great. About the same size too.I have been carrying a Kimber M1911 concealed for about 25 years. While some people may have opinions on why the M1911 isn’t an ideal carry choice, I’m going...The track record for the 3" 1911's trends to the Defender coming out ahead. To be fair, many report good service from the Ultra Carry. I have had a few issues with Colt firearms over my almost four decades of using em', but thats to be expected with mechanical devices made by human beans, I reckon.Stainless Raptor Custom, Pro, Ultra Super Carry Ultra Plus TLE Pro (TFS) Kimber 84M Longmaster Classic SS .308 Kimber SVT 22lr Stainless Fluted Bull Barrel ... Several months back while doing a GB search for a new Kimber and notice the Super Carry Pro had several listing for around $900. I even had a discussion with Marshall about the …Differences between Eclipse Ultra & Super Carry Ultra HD. I know about the rear sight, the trigger, the finish, the slight butt difference, the ambi safety, and the back and front strap checkering, am I missing anything? Oh, and the 1oz weight difference. Seems like not all that much different for the extra that the HD cost.I carry an all steel Pro daily and rarely carry my much lighter alloy framed Compact (officers frame/4" barrel). In all fairness to the officers frame, my Pro is also …I have a Pro CDP as well as an Ultra Raptor and Ill be darned if I feel the Ultra shoots better than the Pro. I am sure someone else would problably shoot the Pro better than the Ultra. It does not matter all that much really, they both shoot very, very, well. I carry them both. Some times you feel like a nut and sometimes you dont.:biglaugh:Kimber 1911 Ultra vs Springfield Hellcat Micro Compact. ... Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry Ii (Two-Tone) 9Mm 3200332 10 more deals from eurooptic.com . 719.99 ... 1911 Pro vs. Kimber 1911 Ultra Sig Sauer P365 vs. Kimber ...The Kimber Family CDP & RCP Ultra's Classic Carry Pro (Factory Bone Grips) Custom Two-Tone 45/.460Rowland Gold Combat Limited Edition Master Carry Pro Sapphire Ultra 9mm SIS Custom, Pro, Ultra Stainless Ultra Carry 9mm Stainless Raptor Custom, Pro, Ultra Super Carry Ultra Plus TLE Pro (TFS) Kimber 84M Longmaster Classic SS .308Mar 24, 2023 ... An update from the last video I uploaded going over the malfunctions i was experiencing using my new Kimber Ultra Carry II.4. Kimber Pro Carry II. Kimber America makes more 1911s than any other company in America. There are 19 different variations of 9mms alone to choose from. Personally, I like the Pro Carry II. It’s got a 4-inch barrel, so it’s a ‘Commander’ size gun and easy to conceal. 3200324. MSRP: $1,022.00. Find Dealers. The Kimber Stainless Pro Carry II is ideal for carry or duty. With a stainless steel slide and full size aluminum frame create a lightweight carry package that also resists the elements. Feb 6, 2018 · This is the second Kimber 1911 that I've run hard in a year, and it's the second time that I've had a pistol run exactly like it should on initial usage. The first pistol was a Master Carry Pro in .45 ACP that I shot over 1,100 rounds with, without adding any lubrication, right out of the box. That includes taking a Gunsite 250 Laser Sight class. The Kimber Family CDP & RCP Ultra's Classic Carry Pro (Factory Bone Grips) Custom Two-Tone 45/.460Rowland Gold Combat Limited Edition Master Carry Pro Sapphire Ultra 9mm SIS Custom, Pro, Ultra Stainless Ultra Carry 9mm Stainless Raptor Custom, Pro, Ultra Super Carry Ultra Plus TLE Pro (TFS) Kimber 84M Longmaster Classic SS .308Sep 18, 2008 ... PART 1 OF 3: The Kimber Pro TLE II (LG) and the Pro Carry II will give you authoritative big bore capability in a smaller package.Costco, Walmart and The Home Depot sell DuPont Pro-Fusion scratch repair sticks for autos, as of March 2015. After DuPont sold its coatings line to the Carlisle Group in 2013, DuPo...CDP vs. Carry: I carry a Kimber Ultra CDP II. Take a look at one vs. the Ultra Carry. The CDP is lighter, has an ambi safety, standard night sights and a checkered front strap. These features are either upgrades or aftermarket additions to the Ultra Carry and add up to much more than the cost difference between the two guns.The Kimber Family CDP & RCP Ultra's Classic Carry Pro (Factory Bone Grips) Custom Two-Tone 45/.460Rowland Gold Combat Limited Edition Master Carry Pro Sapphire Ultra 9mm SIS Custom, Pro, Ultra Stainless Ultra Carry 9mm Stainless Raptor Custom, Pro, Ultra Super Carry Ultra Plus TLE Pro (TFS) Kimber 84M Longmaster Classic SS .308Apr 19, 2012 ... S&W M&P Shield 9mm vs Kimber Ultra Carry II: Size and Feature Comparison. 90K views · 12 years ago ...more ...A social media post said they hadn't seen a comparison between the Kimber Micro 9 and the Ultra Carry II 9mm, so here it is.Website: www.riders-range.com682 posts · Joined 2012. #3 · Oct 19, 2012. I cannot give you facts about the two in question, but I have had the Kimber Super Carry Pro, which is the Kimber lightweight commander, and I presently have the Colt Stainless XSE, as opposed to the lightweight version. Had a few issues in the beginning with the Kimber, but factory responded ...Mar 30, 2022 ... Comments12 · 45 ACP for Bear Protection & Wilderness Carry | Caliber Discussion Ep. 7 · 1911 Series Part 18 - Kimber Ultra Carry II vs S&W Pr...Tough choice and need advise: Pro-Carry II vs Ultra Carry II. As subject shows, I'm at the cross-roads between going with a Pro-Carry II or an Ultra Carry II. - …The Kimber Ultra Carry II is a compact and lightweight pistol designed for concealed carry. It’s known for its reliability, accuracy, and ease of use. However, like any firearm, it has its pros and cons. In this blog, we’ll take a closer look at the Kimber Ultra Carry II and evaluate its features and drawbacks. Pros: S3200190. MSRP: $1,180.00. Find Dealers. The Kimber Pro Crimson Carry II is the ideal all-day-every-day carry gun, with a 4-inch barrel, lightweight aluminum frame and Crimson Trace Lasergrips that give you the real-world advantage.1. I went looking at the kimber line of 3 inch barrel pistols. The dealer actually said. "I would like to sell you a kmber .45 in 3 inch but they are totally unreliable and would recommend a Sig in .40 or even the p238 in .380" the .40 cal sig is still pretty big and the sig p238 feels way too small in my hands.Apr 19, 2012 ... S&W M&P Shield 9mm vs Kimber Ultra Carry II: Size and Feature Comparison. 90K views · 12 years ago ...more ...The Kimber Pro Carry II provides a full-size feel in a compact 1911. Available in 9mm (as tested) and .45 ACP, the Pro Carry II is has the fit and finish of a quality 1911. The way I see it, the Pro Carry II is the Glock 19 of the 1911 world. Kimber offers a medium sized handgun that can be carried easily in a variety of configurations.Kimber 1911 Ultra vs Sig Sauer P365 XL. Kimber 1911 Ultra. SAO Compact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP, 9mm Luger Check Price vs. Sig Sauer P365 XL. Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger ... Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry Ii (Two-Tone) 9Mm 3200332 10 more deals from eurooptic.com . 719.99 View Deal ...This video is intended to visually help you with disassembling your Kimber 1911 however you must follow your gun instruction manual for proper safety instruc...Tough choice and need advise: Pro-Carry II vs Ultra Carry II. As subject shows, I'm at the cross-roads between going with a Pro-Carry II or an Ultra Carry II. - …Feb 5, 2012 ... Chad Compares the Sig p238 and the Kimber Ultra Carry II.Had to send it in to Kimber for them to fix. Got it back and it still jammed with some federal hydrashok 135g JHPs. Sent it back into Kimber a second time and they polished the feed ramp. Found the only ammo that would work it was Magtech 115g JHPs. I have a springfield XD 9mm that I haven't had much problems with and the Kimber was …This coming from a guy that would shoot nothing but a 1911 for years, that is not an opinion, it is fact. Comparing a G30 to a Kimber Carry is like comparing a horse and wagon to a fancy chrome and blinged out pick up truck. One is utilitarian, functional and simple, the other is over the top, expensive, and at times temperamental.The Kimber Family CDP & RCP Ultra's Classic Carry Pro (Factory Bone Grips) Custom Two-Tone 45/.460Rowland Gold Combat Limited Edition Master Carry Pro Sapphire Ultra 9mm SIS Custom, Pro, Ultra Stainless Ultra Carry 9mm Stainless Raptor Custom, Pro, Ultra Super Carry Ultra Plus TLE Pro (TFS) Kimber 84M Longmaster …The Kimber Ultra Carry II is a compact and lightweight pistol designed for concealed carry. It’s known for its reliability, accuracy, and ease of use. However, like any firearm, it has its pros and cons. In this blog, we’ll take a closer look at the Kimber Ultra Carry II and evaluate its features and drawbacks. Pros: SI switched from EDC Glock 23 to the Kimber Pro Carry II then after about a year I obtained a Ultra RCP II and it has become my EDC. All in .45 ACP. I kept my Glocks as I like the platform but those damm 1911's keep calling me back. I have even switch from my IDPA gun a Glock 35 to a S&W 1911 9mm Pro, just to keep the platforms the same, …I chose the CDP for the following reasons. 1) Lighter (easier to carry) How so, they are both aluminum framed but just the slide is stainless on the Stainless UC-II! 2) Melt job (less chance of clothes snag) Not a concern and the cost difference is way to much just for a melt job. Although nice, it is not needed.Aug 30, 2008 · Here's one I can speak from experience on. I own both. The Ultra Carry is a stainless model with alloy frame and of course the Glock I reference is the 36. Kimber weighs 25.0 oz. and 8 rounds capacity. Glock 36 weighs 20.0 oz. and 7 rounds capacity. Side by side they both carry great. About the same size too. Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry Ii (Two-Tone) 9Mm 3200332 ... 1911-380 Black Label Pro Kimber 1911 Ultra vs. Kahr CW9 ...The Defenders have the Series 80 system and any Kimber with a II in the name has the old Colt Swartz safety in it. Also the Colt/Talo Commander has a normal guide rod and plug so field stripping is traditional. I think if I wanted to carry a little 1911 again I would look at the ones Ruger recently introduced.This coming from a guy that would shoot nothing but a 1911 for years, that is not an opinion, it is fact. Comparing a G30 to a Kimber Carry is like comparing a horse and wagon to a fancy chrome and blinged out pick up truck. One is utilitarian, functional and simple, the other is over the top, expensive, and at times temperamental.Oct 21, 2017 ... If you had two and only two choices for a 3" 1911 to carry which would you choose? Options: Stainless Kimber Ultra Carry II W/ Laser Grips ...Apr 17, 2019 · The all-steel frame and slide featured a matte black finish, while the barrel and skeletonized hammer were shiny stainless. It also came with an skeletonized aluminum trigger that broke cleanly at around 5 pounds. This gun was beautiful, compact and powerful, which was exactly what I was looking for in a carry gun. Kimber Ultra Carry pistols in .45 ACP and 9 mm have it all, and put it together in a 1911 package that simply outperforms any other type of semi-automatic. To ensure dependability, Ultra Carry lightweight aluminum frames are machined on the same computer-driven machines and to the same unequaled tolerances as Kimber steel frames.Compare the dimensions and specs of Kimber 1911 Ultra and Springfield 1911 Ronin EMP 3" Handgun Search; Tabletop Compare; ... Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry Ii (Two-Tone) 9Mm 3200332 ... Hellcat Pro vs. Springfield …Compare the dimensions and specs of Kimber 1911 Ultra and Springfield 1911 Ronin EMP 3" Handgun Search; Tabletop Compare; ... Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry Ii (Two-Tone) 9Mm 3200332 ... Hellcat Pro vs. Springfield …As has been mentioned, the KimPro finish can be okay or not so good. I purchased a used Super Carry Ultra that had obvious dings and scratches on the slide finish. Sent it to the Mothership for a complete rebuild, including a slide refinish. Cost for the refinish: $110 for what now looks to be a brand new slide. Nice.Nov 23, 2019 ... Best be prepared to defend yourself in these uncertain times. I saw things, long, long ago, no young man should ever see and it made an ...43608 posts · Joined 2013. #4 · Mar 4, 2020. A flat wire recoil spring in a 4" or 5" 1911 will be good for about 40,000 rounds and most shooters will never have to change it again. The round wire spring that Kimber sells is is good for about 800 rounds. The other advantage of the flat wire spring is that you won't need a tool to break the gun ...3767 posts · Joined 2014. #13 · Aug 30, 2015. Works For Me!! I use Kimber factory mags and Chip McCormick Shooting Stars. Last time at the range, they pushed every round right through my Pro Carry II---NO ISSUES HERE!! The Lineman-Proud Army Dad!! --Keith. Obama called me a CLINGER! Terrorists call me an INFIDEL!SKU. 3000284. MSRP: $1,477.00. Find Dealers. Kimber’s Master Carry Ultra is ideal for concealed carry with its light weight aluminum Round Heel Frame and Crimson Trace Master Series Lasergrips.The Kimber Family CDP & RCP Ultra's Classic Carry Pro (Factory Bone Grips) Custom Two-Tone 45/.460Rowland Gold Combat Limited Edition Master Carry Pro Sapphire Ultra 9mm SIS Custom, Pro, Ultra Stainless Ultra Carry 9mm Stainless Raptor Custom, Pro, Ultra Super Carry Ultra Plus TLE Pro (TFS) Kimber 84M Longmaster Classic SS .308You even said it at the end of the review… Function vs form. That Glock will run longer and better than the Kimber. No need to change the recoil spring after 800 rounds like Kimber recommends for its pistol. Don’t get me wrong, the Kimber looks great, but considering cost, fire power and reliability, Glock wins hands down. Nice review.The Ultra Raptor II is a real 1911 style pistol. The Micro 9 is a smaller, simpler pistol that is less expensive to manufacture. Both should be 100% reliable. But generally, the 1911 style will offer more firepower and slicker functionality. The 1911 is a better gun, but if you're looking for a smaller package that offers easier concealment, go ...Heckler And Koch Vp9L For Sale 9Mm 81000591... grabagun.com. 744.99. View Deal. Compare the dimensions and specs of Kimber 1911 Ultra and Smith & Wesson M&P 9 Shield Plus.Compare the dimensions and specs of Kimber 1911 Ultra and Springfield 1911 Ronin EMP 3" ... Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry Ii (Two-Tone) 9Mm 3200332 ... Hellcat Pro vs ... 3200321. MSRP: $980.00. Find Dealers. The Kimber Ultra Carry II (Two-Tone) is the ideal carry pistol, complete with a brushed polished carbon slide, stainless frame and rosewood grips. May 21, 2016 · 193 posts · Joined 2016. #1 · May 21, 2016. Frankenstein Ultra Carry ii. -Cerokote H-109 Gloss Black. - Media blasted barrel for Satin finish. -Crimson Tracer Master 905. -Challis Grip Bushings. -VS Grip Screws Templar Black Wash. -Truglo Brite-Site TFX sights. SKU. 3000245. MSRP: $1,399.00. Find Dealers. The Ultra CDP II is one of Kimber’s finest concealed carry; match grade 3-inch barrel, stainless steel slide and compact aluminum frame with double diamond rosewood grips.TwinCarry. 365 posts · Joined 2007. #10 · Feb 1, 2009. The Kimber SIS Ultra 3" 45acp, was my first of this type of pistol (1911, 45acp). Honestly, I was quite please with how manageble the recoil was. But my example may not be the best because mine weighs 31oz vs the other 24-26oz Kimbers.A social media post said they hadn't seen a comparison between the Kimber Micro 9 and the Ultra Carry II 9mm, so here it is.Website: www.riders-range.comXD-EMP. 14 posts · Joined 2008. #13 · Sep 21, 2008. I've shot a friends Kimber Ultra Carry, held Kimber Aegis and Springfield EMP side by side, but never shot either. But I liked the feel of the Springfield EMP 9mm much better than the Kimber Aegis 9mm. It fits my hand much better since I have a small hands. I got the EMP last July and …Fit and finish are both excellent, and it is actually tighter in slide fit than the the Kimber. With about 400 rounds through the Operator, I have had 2 FTF issues in the first 100 rounds, none since. The Operator has much better sights, and to me has less felt recoil than the Kimber. This weapon is very accurate.Ultra-high-net-worth individuals have minimum assets of $30 million. We review the top groups of UHNWIs and what investment opportunities they have. Calculators Helpful Guides Comp...The Micro is easier and lighter to carry all day. If you live in the warmer climate states you would probably prefer the Micro 9. There is no wrong choice here, it’s …Heckler And Koch Vp9L For Sale 9Mm 81000591... grabagun.com. 744.99. View Deal. Compare the dimensions and specs of Kimber 1911 Ultra and Smith & Wesson M&P 9 Shield Plus.Apple's familiar playbook suggests that the Ultra won't be the last new variant of the company's smartwatch line. With the Ultra, Apple has taken a page from its now-familiar playb...3382 posts · Joined 2011. #8 · Apr 6, 2016. I owned an Ultra CDP and it was a great gun. I just bought an Ultra Carry in 9mm and am "tuning it up". It too is a great little pistol. For the money in a carry gun, the CDP is the better buy, unless you can find an Ultra TLE II. Checkering and night sights for under $1k.Jan 8, 2012 · I switched from EDC Glock 23 to the Kimber Pro Carry II then after about a year I obtained a Ultra RCP II and it has become my EDC. All in .45 ACP. I kept my Glocks as I like the platform but those damm 1911's keep calling me back. I have even switch from my IDPA gun a Glock 35 to a S&W 1911 9mm Pro, just to keep the platforms the same, 1911 style.
Apr 14, 2004 · My CCW/off-duty gun is an Ultra CDP II. I have shot 2500+ rounds through it and have had absolutely no reliability issues. My carry round is a Speer 200gr +P Gold Dot and my practice ammunition is 230 ball FMJ and RNL. I use Wilson 7-shot magazines exclusively. The holster is a Milt Sparks Versa Max II. . Is gonetspeed down
This is the second Kimber 1911 that I've run hard in a year, and it's the second time that I've had a pistol run exactly like it should on initial usage. The first pistol was a Master Carry Pro in .45 ACP that I …KIMBER PRO CARRY II with customized Bobtail (as seen in pictures)SpecificationsCaliber: 9MMHeight (inches) 90deg to barrel: 5.25Weight (ounces) with empty magazine: 28Length (inches): 7.7Magazine capacity: 9Recoil spring (pounds): 14.0Full-length guide rodFrameMaterial: AluminumWidth (inches): 1.28SlideMaterial: SteelFinish: Matte …193 posts · Joined 2016. #1 · May 21, 2016. Frankenstein Ultra Carry ii. -Cerokote H-109 Gloss Black. - Media blasted barrel for Satin finish. -Crimson Tracer Master 905. -Challis Grip Bushings. -VS Grip Screws Templar Black Wash. …The Super Carry Pro HD is Kimber’s top of the line in 4″ 1911s. You could spend over $2800 for a “Bill Wilson Carry” or save $1200 for a few mods, a good holster and lots of ammo. The most popular and …wolfpack45. 87 posts · Joined 2010. #2 · Aug 9, 2012. Super Carry Ultra has the KimPro finish, the ultra raptor is blued. The Kimpro will protect against corrosion better than the bluing. Also, if you like all black and all steel, the Super Carry Ultra HD is another option. Other than that they are very much similar.Compare the dimensions and specs of Kimber 1911 Ultra and Springfield 1911 Ronin EMP 3" Handgun Search; Tabletop Compare; ... Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry Ii (Two-Tone) 9Mm 3200332 ... Hellcat Pro vs. Springfield …The Ultra Crimson Carry II 1911 pistol from Kimber; a .45 ACP with a lightweight aluminum frame for every-day carry equipped with Crimson Trace Lasergrips. ... Rosewood double diamond Crimson Trace Lasergrips with Kimber logo; Trigger. Aluminum, match grade; Factory setting (approximate pounds): 4.0 - 5.0; Product Code.Super Carry Ultra Plus TLE Pro (TFS) Kimber 84M Longmaster Classic SS .308 Kimber SVT 22lr Stainless Fluted Bull Barrel Kimber Of America 82 Stainless Fluted .22lr Kimber 84M Varmint Stainless 204 Ruger. Reactions: Rustyaa55, Oklahomabound, Rick in Oregon and 4 others. Save Share. Like.wolfpack45. 87 posts · Joined 2010. #2 · Aug 9, 2012. Super Carry Ultra has the KimPro finish, the ultra raptor is blued. The Kimpro will protect against corrosion better than the bluing. Also, if you like all black and all steel, the Super Carry Ultra HD is another option. Other than that they are very much similar.The Kimber Family CDP & RCP Ultra's Classic Carry Pro (Factory Bone Grips) Custom Two-Tone 45/.460Rowland Gold Combat Limited Edition Master Carry Pro Sapphire Ultra 9mm SIS Custom, Pro, Ultra Stainless Ultra Carry 9mm Stainless Raptor Custom, Pro, Ultra Super Carry Ultra Plus TLE Pro (TFS) Kimber 84M Longmaster Classic SS .308The Defenders have the Series 80 system and any Kimber with a II in the name has the old Colt Swartz safety in it. Also the Colt/Talo Commander has a normal guide rod and plug so field stripping is traditional. I think if I wanted to carry a little 1911 again I would look at the ones Ruger recently introduced..
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